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This is an interesting way to consolidate different conversations on Notes. I like it.

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I had so many thoughts popping off, all going on all at once - too many to build out and many loosely interrelated. So I figured I'd try it! And maybe some people I know will come over to Notes and hang out with all of us! :)

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"Who wouldn’t question that hallway? Creepiest hallway ever."

—I went with eight other people (strength in numbers) down into the abandoned subway system underneath Rochester, NY. SUPER-FREAKY!

At first, it was beautiful graffiti paintings. Then homeless encampments. The deeper you went, into the pitch-black tunnels, the dumber the graffiti got—puerile, boobs and penises and all. But then it got weird. Satanic bits. A really, really long poem in beautiful graffiti handwriting, in which a guy waxed rhapsodic about his girlfriend's hips.

Rubble everywhere. Crumbling columns and ceilings. Tunnels heading off in other directions. It was like exploring Moria.

At one point, a guy suddenly appeared next to us with a pit bull on a leash. They had been walking the same distance we had, though the pitch black…without a flashlight. WTH?

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Don't do that. It's not safe. There are entire societies of people down there. Not to freak you out but you're damn lucky you came back.

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It doesn't freak me out. I have done a fair amount of crazy sh1t in my life. But I am pleased that we emerged back into the daylight, and I am glad to have had the experience.

I heard they have since filled the place in or collapsed the tunnels or something.

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Mole people, Chris..... MOLE. PEOPLE.

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We couldn't see them…but they could SMELL us!

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Creeptastic!!!!

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I was literally thinking the same thing, zombie movies start like this lol.

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Hahahahahaha!

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Thanks for the mention, Demi. The ink on your quill never dries.

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🙏🏻💜💫

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The man/bear meme is still going strong 😭

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Yo, it needs to STOP. I need bears just so I can sick bears on people who are all beared out right now. 🤣

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😂

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Space laser popcorn! One of my all time favorite movies.

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LOL!! <3

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I've been thinking about this conversation nonstop!

I think this relates to the conversation you had with Jacqueline, also. We've had Boethius's "The Consolation of Philosophy" sitting on our coffee table for over a month. I decided to pick it up last week, and he immediately started talking about how people lose sight of their 'true' nature after spending a lot of time in this world, being preoccupied with material things. It's been a thought-provoking read, and while he wasn't talking about exactly the same thing, it reminded me of what we were talking about regarding abilities that humans have that we've forgotten how to access.

Cool stuff. It's interesting to read something written over a thousand years ago addressing these same questions. Thanks for sharing this!

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Absolutely! I wanted to get something out that covered all of this and a lot of the conversations had intersections so I figured I'd just do it this way. I'm glad it made sense! :)

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You did a great job with it! Always love these comment posts.

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Thank you!! <3

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The ivermectin thing messes with my head.

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If it doesn't, there's something wrong with you. It's psyopception. If you thought that way all the time, you'd drive yourself nuts.

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Sometimes I wonder if the notion that something is a psyop is itself a psyop. To keep us constantly off balance or arguing…

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"That's not honey! You're eating RECURSION, Pooh!"

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You see—that is why commas are important. No one wants to eat recursion poo.

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TRUTH!

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I call that a "double double"

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"the notion that something is a psyop is itself a psyop." -

I was responding to that. I responded in the wrong place :)

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This is the right place, as far as I can tell. The line goes right up to the psyop-psyop comment.

Unless…is your comment about a double double psyop psyop actually triple double psyop? *insert sinister music*

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The mention of PsyOp scares some of my good friends. In part, I think because they don’t have the time to introspect as needed.

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If they can't wrap their heads around a psyop, how are they going to deal with psyopception triple lindy with a maraschino cherry on top?

(And yes, I'm already slow walking this over to the list for Sentences 6. Sigh. Hahahaha.)

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😀 btw, your dialog posts reminds me of an 80’s (?) movie of people in a cabin discussing philosophy. It is surprisingly engaging, and amazing to have such spontaneous yet thoughtful commenting. Over on X a mid level journalist was sharing propaganda bs, it was refuted by an independent journalist…but they were brands debating. Missing a feeling of authenticity and insight.

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My Facebook page was like this for years despite the culture of the rest of Facebook. I've grown accustomed to maintaining that feel no matter where I am. I just sort of moved it over here instead.

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What was the movie?

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Along with

"That's not honey! You're eating RECURSION, Pooh!"

and possibly

"You see—that is why commas are important. No one wants to eat recursion poo."

?

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Or they just don't want their day disturbed. I can see that my wife sorta kinda knows that some of this stuff is true. But as a general rule, she wants to live in the moment, and not have that moment marred by worry about the future. It is an approach both admirable and annoying!

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Stop disturbing Judy's day, Chris. 🤣

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Why not just ask me not to exist while you're at it? 😇

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One of the friends is a young dad , 3 fascinating jobs, entrepreneur, recently divorced, and in a relationship and her life is mirroring his. They literally have no time to dissect propaganda. Haha but I keep reminding him that if he wants to make a cultural art contribution he has to know about the CIA’s role. They say good literary conflicts are between the good and the good. 😀

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Interesting.

I am actually somewhat inclined in my wife's direction, in a way.

I don't want my day disturbed by DETAILS. The overview is fine. In general, I already know that everything is totally FUBAR, so I do not need to study up on it. To me, that is dwelling in doom.

The big difference between she and I now is that I want to be on a big farm with solar panels and a well YESTERDAY. But if I mention that we should get on that, she feels like I am not enjoying where we are now. And she does not want to hear the apocalyptic reasons why we need that big piece of land…

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What about hydroxychloroquine?

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Unnecessary. People aren't getting sick in the ways we're being told. Focus on detox instead. Start with a chelation practitioner and go from there.

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We were SO SICK. Took forever to get better. Took a month to get Judy off oxygen. Months to stop coughing. A year to get back to normal middle-aged-brain memory, as opposed to covid/snake venom/whatever-the-#$%#-it-was memory.

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Detoxing and protecting against EMF can help because the less that's affecting your body, the less you have to mitigate, the better off you'll be to mitigate toxins or EMF the next time you are exposed. We live in a toxic world. It's going to happen. But you can make the experience suck less.

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I use Italian parsley broth for general detox.

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Think we share the same neural network, Demi. Thank you for putting my thoughts into words. Especially relished the manifestation piece - how to enhance from high vibrations, playing in lower vibrational realms and getting universally swept back to zero point (visually like that metaphor).

Love you girl, love your mind.

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Thank you so much, Molly!! Sending my love!! 🙏🏻💜💫

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I'm not trying to be combative here, but I don't think its fair at all to claim that the ancient Gnostics lived in a state of exile. Now, for moderners this might be a bird of a different feather.

In ancient Gnosticism what one DOES find is the condition of the Stranger. An entire post should probably be written to explain this, but in one sentence it involves estrangement from daily life, NOT from a spiritual one. The mysticism of the Gnostic has always involved direct personal experience, and in order to truly experience such one cannot be exiled from the numinous.

I know all too well about wounding and pain, and so I can state with confidence that both can blind one to higher places and truths. I can also state that some damage is too severe to heal, which can certainly contribute to an experience of exile, as well as a host of other states.

What moderners don't know, or don't seem to give any attention to is the nature of the calling itself. The old saying of many are called, but few answer is pertinent here. Any call is merely a prelude, it can take many forms, but to moderners conditioned by a shallow social paradigm the call is seen to represent the path, however I do not personally find this to be the case.

It is clear from the remnant Gnostic scripture that ancient Gnosticism was a visionary mysticism that linked directly with the numinous. In this, it was a final chapter in a mystical tradition that spanned centuries and beyond.

The Light was emblematic in all scripture, to the point of ubiquitousness, and if you have certain experiences the light reveals much regarding our very perceptions.

It is also, I believe, extremely important to understand that ancient Gnosticism was not one great big group with fully agreed upon praxis. The focus, and the mythology was distinct. The Valentinians certainly held general similarity to the Sethians, but they each had their own personalities, and their own distinct cosmic views.

Personally, I hold the view that the image modern scholarship projects, is a modern image, NOT THE IMAGE.

Ancient Gnosticism has much to offer as a visionary mysticism of the numinous. I believe the modern mind must tread with caution when involved in translation.

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No one thinks you're being combative. Read Melissa's piece fully. She was just presenting what she found so far as an exploration and wanted to ask questions. It's fine to chat and share thoughts and opinions here. No one is going to attack you. And I don't allow that kind of behavior anyway. Thank you for saying what you think! :)

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Thank you Ms. P.

Its just that today, the term Gnostic is veering widely off into all kinds of directions. I suppose some of this is inevitable as the modern experience is extremely-as in over the top eclectic in grabbing for meaning. Whatever source fits.

However, what I continually confront in the Gnostic community, if this is the correct term, is a kind of view where Gnosticism is perceived as a set of beliefs/assumptions in the same fashion as the big religions, Judaism, Christianity, Islam. These huge global religions have very definite structures, and very well understood ways of approaching those structures.

Doubtless, the cognitive control issues forth into respective society, and therefore all of us are hammered into shape to adopt this set of cognitive tools.

I admit that I am not mainstream, not politically correct, and that my observations thus might just be from one fucking weirdo, and can be easily dismissed as I have no authority or status. With this proviso, the Gnostic corpus is not a set of beliefs, nor is it a narrative, and it certainly is not a theology. What Gnosticism is, then, is an absolutely brilliant approach to mysticism where realities are deeply, deeply engaged-way beyond the waking mind. Therefore, the conditions and situations are not external beliefs, they are evident experiences that carry their own power.

This is how we know, how we approach the numinous, and it is amazing in itself that such a sophisticated, multilevel system was extant, and even more amazing that despite the vicious genocides and inhuman levels of destruction, the core of the Gnostic way is available today.

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The women who are saying they would take a bear over a man won't have bears or men. All they will have is cats. Lots and lots of cats.

No man at their side to face life's storms.

No children helping them in their final years.

Just cats.

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LMFAO!!!

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"Avoid the artificial light construct tunnel thing. Other than that, remember you can create anything you would like to experience. So whatever you determine you want that to be, it will.”

—Probably should imagine a bunch of wise souls who care about you coming right at the moment of death and explaining EXACTLY what is going on. Just so there is no confusion.

Because at the moment, I am super-confused.

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Careful your imagination doesn’t get hijacked and lead you toward false relatives who usher you toward the reincarnation tunnel. That happens to a lot of people. Don’t choose it unless you really want it.

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What is the alternative to reincarnation? Escaping the cycle, I guess.

I heard someone say, "What is the one thing that limitless beings lack? Limitations." Isn't the goal of the cycle to figure out how to become limitless within those limitations? And if we escape the cycle before that is achieved…?

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Reality is an experiential engine. You can decide any of that, and if there's a way it would adhere to the law of continuity for this realm so that it doesn't kick you out of willing suspension of disbelief, it can happen if you decide it's what you wanted to experience. Just make sure you like whatever you're choosing right now. Don't convince yourself of something shitty.

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This is excellent advice!

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The worst - and this is honestly the way things roll more often than not - is when someone decides on some shitty experiential hole they want to dig for themselves perceptually - and then they convince everyone else around them that said perceptual shitshow clusterfuck is actually true. And it spreads. Because people choose to black pill themselves. And it could be something dumb and simple, like "today is going to be a bad day," or "there's no way out of this." It's not true. Don't lack imagination and then pull others into your shithole thinking with you. Bad monkeys.

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I have been understanding this more and more over the last year. And I think I am helping lead my family to a better place, little by little.

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Funny you word it like that, Chris. I just posted a piece where I talk about Sam Kinison having a strange conversation with “someone” right before he died. I could imagine that someone could come to your aid to make sure you settle into everything without panic.

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Loved the piece!

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Thanks!

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The thing about staying useful was directly mentioned in this episode of Alan Watt: https://www.podbean.com/site/EpisodeDownload/DIR1EA4E4A9QZVDN (1:15:39). Not to always throw his name out, but it looks like some synchronicity, going on, here. "But they must agree to basically leave their families, like the others, and they don't belong in their family, or all that kind of stuff. And if they won't, he said, and they remain out amongst the communities, their own peoples, or classes—is what he actually meant, to say—they can be an awful problem, and will have to be dealt with, he says. And he says they will have to be eliminated, 'cause they can put things across, to their own—huhh! Oh, it's the awful word again—kind."

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If you go to the section above called Exiled In Eden and you go to the sentence linked with the word "thought-vom" in it, I think the contents of that linked post will interest you. Keep in mind I was basically brain dumping when I wrote it. But I think the topics it covers will be meaningful to you.

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Thank you! I've followed a few links from here, so far, and that sounds great!

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Awesome - thank you! I will listen to this! :)

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Two hours with Alan are like two minutes with anyone else. In terms of how they fly by.

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I love that he was able to discuss these ordinarily massively dysregulating topics and remain so calm. Like unintentional ASMR level of calm. He's like the anti-Alex Jones. Wow. :)

I'm about halfway through. The fact that he knows everything about our society has been prepackaged and has been on a looping reset schedule for millennia - that's impressive. Most people wouldn't go there. I do, and I like that he did.

What was his background? How did he know that? That's rather uncommon to know that and to be able to articulate it so clearly.

Thank you for recommending this.

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Oh, you're welcome. He was apparently working in the music industry (listen to this, if you want to look more into where he comes from: https://www.podbean.com/media/share/dir-murg9-1de37ffc?utm_campaign=w_share_ep&utm_medium=dlink&utm_source=w_share. Shorter, and sort of even better of a summation of what's going on, generally), and—as Melissa said, his widow/partner before he is said to have passed away, in 2021—any music on his show, which you have even heard in that one, I think, he probably had something to do with.

Essentially, this guy was a legitimate music industry dude, and he found that, as he explains in the above link, the people in various countries he would go to would always sort of ask him to dinner, or something, and test him out. He got the idea, after a while, that this whole industry was built on giving messages from the record companies, through the music, to people to build a specific culture.

I'm not sure how he transitioned into the Truth research, but he did, around 2000, or so, maybe a little before then.

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That makes a lot of sense. That was something I noticed when I lived in Hollywood too - I would receive these WEIRD party invitations in my email all the time, not knowing what they were, and my natural inclinations kept me safe because I never felt like attending or got curious about it or anything like that. Creeptastic.

Most of the people who know the information he's discussing did some kind of a stint in black ops or in the classified sector. But high level access through the music or film world would make sense - those are all tethered together.

I will listen to this - thanks again! :)

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I will say, MELISSA too said she worked in the film industry, lol, so even she is part of that culture. I mean, having come from it.

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Those are my favorite people, when you don't notice and then you look up and wonder where the time went. Cool! I will check it out. :)

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Thanks for including me and our exchange! I agree with you about Notes being conducive to thoughtful conversations that offer the opportunity for writers and readers to respectfully share different perspectives.

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It's been so great, especially compared to other sites where the algos are stacked to incite aggression! Thank you so much for chatting with me about this!! 🙏🏻💜💫

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"The 1987 John Carpenter film Prince of Darkness"

—I really liked that movie!

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Having triple mixed together clairaudience that all shared the same theme was a new one on me - that was so weird! I guess this is what I can expect moving forward! LOL!

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Is that what you expect moving forward…or what you will manifest?

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I don't decide how the messages come in. They just do. I can alter the way they come in if they're annoying though. That's happened a few times. Like, for instance, the messages were inhibiting my sleep and I had to redirect to get enough rest.

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Sleep is essential. I feel like a completely different person if I sleep eight hours!

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Sleep is when you heal. Absolutely.

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“When the thing you’re trying to make sense of literally makes no sense, the act of attempting to make sense of it only generates more nonsense.”

💯 Demi.

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One of my BIGGEST pet peeves. Thanks, Dee!! 🙏🏻💜💫

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"feel compelled to defend it as I would my own limb because I have hung my hat so hard on the ideas of someone else that I am unable to extricate the self from the doctrine."

—My goal is to figure out the most basic, universal stuff that I am sure is true. I am sure humans have self-ownership, which produces rights. I am sure that that self-ownership, and those rights, are violated by the initiation of coercive force. I am sure that said initiation is a moral crime. There are, of course, many edge questions (like what constitutes coercive force in marginal cases, etc.). But those seem unassailable to me. So I am happy to hang my hat there. Indeed, I need to hang my hat in a place of universal truth. I do not want to be completely adrift.

But yeah, I do not want to get too convinced of any totalizing doctrine. That way danger lies.

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I agree with you on all of that. And I didn't get there by following gurus or some manifesto that I feel compelled to defend. I got there because it made sense to me. And I reserve the right to change my mind if other things make better sense to me.

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When people get super drilled down into the terms of their manifestos, it usually strikes me as a desire to be the arbiter of how everyone else lives, not as a sincere attempt to define interaction with reality. No one knows how it works - we're all here exploring. To me, manifestos reek of narcissistic pufferfish behavior as a thin gauzy veil to hide the deeper insecurity of not being able to live or function without a sanctioned playbook, especially when the playbook has been written to imply that others should be forced into accepting that particular grouping of ideas as the one and only playbook for living life.

Manifestos that are written tongue-in-cheek and are designed to point out the inherent lunacy of living according to manifestos can be useful if people understand the joke - but there's no relying on that. Manifestos that are designed to be broken and unliveable as a way to point out that the concept of living by a manifesto is broken and unliveable are interesting conceptually - but that's just breaking the medium to expose the ways it can be used to manipulate. I can see the humor and the educational value in that. But past the initial humor/teaching moment, that just devolves into a circle jerk as well. And while you could say that's a part of the art of it, I'll pass. What a waste of energy. 🤣

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If what I said had any sort of intent behind making it a policy, sure. But I don't. I just think it smacks of ego to lay out some kind of way to live that someone would feel everyone else had to live by. And worse if there's any kind of force behind it. Laying it out for oneself does no harm. Trying to force others into accepting it... weird flex.

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Context matters.

1 Thessalonians 5 starting at 19

Do not quench the Spirit. 20 Do not despise prophecies, 21 but test everything; hold fast what is good. 22 Abstain from every form of evil.

The bear thing is a little fire.

My sister once had a dream. John Brown was talking to her. Out on the prairie were dozens of little fires. They would go out. Then further away another little fire would light up. She saw as from a great height these little fires going on and going out all over the plains. John Brown said, "Don't worry about the little fires. They won't hurt you. In a few months you won't even remember what they were about if you just let them be."

Melissa asked, "How will I know if it's a big fire?"

John said, "You'll know. Turn around."

Behind her was a wall of wildfire covering the prairie from horizon to horizon.

"Fight the big fires. The little fires will go out if you don't feed them."

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Context does matter. I don't even believe in prophecies. We have free will. We can read energetic probabilities and then choose new experiential directions. We are not beholden to what someone else said would happen. It's being utilized in the reverse. Convince enough people that a playbook is a prophecy and they will manifest your prophecy through experiential choice. It's the impact of aggregate consciousness.

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Ah. I should mention the people who are told to prophesy easy things and obey their paymasters are not prophets of God. But I have direct experiences of prophesies from God. God speaks the truth. And when God gives us a warning it is well to pay heed.

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